General Discussion
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is anybody else having problems accessing the Edge Finder? I keep getting this message Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).
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@administrators is anyone able to advise why the Edge Master seems to have slumped in the number of available bets in recent days? it's gone from usually a whole page or two of good "blue" value bets over 107% but last few days hardly any. i keep checking in and just seems to not be many. i've lost a good few bookies through gubbing (including the good ones like rainbow riches, monopoly etc) but not for a while and just seems the number of value bets is declining
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Hi @ginjaninja280,
We recently changed the pricing to be harsher on fair odds, as the data suggested we were slightly overestimating the EVs. This will reduce the bet values, but they should now be bang on the EV%.
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@Dom-Inspo thanks. but i've gone from being able to get £150 plus in bets a day on to struggling to make £50. i've been doing really well but i can now hardly bet. i've lost a few key bookies but still got hundreds available and just really not able to get bets on. it's more about number of bets the number has crashed
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thinking about getting outplayed pro, just wondering how many uk bookies it supports and if people would reccomend it
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@administrators sorry to come back on this. i have lost the cluster of bookies (rainbow riches, monopoly etc) and a few more pretty fast despite sticking to reasonably safe bets. i'm not sure what the EV changes mean exactly, other than i am checking every day and due to lower EV can now only get a few £5-10 bets a day on. For a quite expensive tool I'm struggling to see value over the rest of the year if i can't get bets on
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Another update from me for those interested in whether this tool is worth its subscription value. It has been worth it for me, in the past week I hit the £1500 profit mark so finally the tool has covered the subscription cost.
It took a lot of bets to get there and some down swings, but it got there. Like anyone, I was hoping it would have gotten there sooner, but given that I started this in November last year, it's taken 4 months to get here, so hopefully another 4 months to pay for the next subscription and then it's 4 months of just pure profit. -
@IamBigBongo Out of interest, which bookies do you use and do you just cover the top leagues rather than everything?
Worried about losing my accounts quickly if I'm betting on U-19 leagues etc.
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@DJP97 I bet on everything, simply because the bookies I used have gubbed/stake restricted me anyway. If you have a healthy account, probably best you stick to big leagues. On accounts where you've been gubbed, bet on anything. I bet on U19, U21, Womens, Ethiopian etc lol. Bookies I use mainly are Betfair, Betvictor, Coral, William Hill, Sky, 888Sport and Paddy.
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@IamBigBongo Are you not stake restricted on these accounts? I'm noticing I've getting stake restricted on some of the accounts, especially the Gamesys group
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@DJP97 Yes I am stake restricted, up to 6 quid on WH, 2-5 quid on coral, 5 max on sky, 15 quid max on 888, victor etc. Every little helps though. It's probably why it's taken me thousands of bets to get this profit.
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@IamBigBongo yeah i hit £1500 on this and £15k on ewnl. £2000 on golf ... so it been worth it. Hard work lot.of betting and bank.management and lost loads of bookies. But heading for 20k in a year and a half.
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Just wondered if anyone can help with parameters - I'm only 200 odd bets in, 2k bankroll, a lot of work for -100?
I'm 10k up on EYNL so confident these tools work, just not sure i'm hitting it right currently.
Current settings are:
Bet on everything over 103ev - max odds 3, no min set. 12 hours time!
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@rwatson95 i dont have a max odds bet on everything green and blue on any odds it shows . 2k up kelly staking to bank roll.
Be prepared to loose alot of bookies.
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@rwatson95 similar position here - im 11k up on EWNL but so far from this I am at Total Profit £257.67 / Total EV £1939.38
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I'm 100 bets in. EV= £110 Actuals =£49 profit. Again I'm not too impressed with the tool, primarily because of how quick I've been limited with bookies. I've lost previous staples, BetUK, Grosvener, Bally Casino, Tote after only a few bets on each. Biggest problem I have is getting an actual bet on with confidence I'm not going to lose another account so I have been trying to change my strategy and do lots of mug bets on an account on big leagues then take the very occasional bet using the Edge Finder. I no longer do any bets over £10 on the Edge Finder.
Recently I wondered whether using Smarkets would be a better way to get the bets on without being restricted and I found that in the majority of items on the Edge Finder, the Exchange has way worse odds. So not only are we betting on obscure leagues, but we're actually probably Arbing most of the time without realising it. Example today Dock Sud v Villa San Carlos / Draw / 2.87 on DAZN. 2.8 to lay on Smarkets (2.6 to back).
@administrators I think this needs an urgent filter applying to Remove Arbs.
The amount of extra time that I'm using protecting accounts to get the odd bet on is destroying this tool, and it's absolutely not worth the money. There is no way on Earth I will get near a profit of +£1500 to justify paying for the tool across the year. How your testers were getting hundreds of bets on a month, or banking enough EV per day to make £1000 a month or more, which is what the sales video promised, is beyond me.
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@Buddha7 @administrators I'm also really concerned that plenty of people have raised concerns above, and nothing seems to have been done to alleviate those concerns.
Hardly any responses on the forum, no 'best practice' training about the tool. Just silence. Think we need a bit of a response here given the annual cost of the tool
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@Buddha7 the guide can be found here - https://forum.outplayed.com/topic/183409/edge-finder-guide
The whole idea of the tool is that it finds bets that are priced better than the probability of the event happening (creating value), so it is no surprise that a bookmaker price being shown is higher than a current exchange price.
If you have any specific concerns you should contact Support so that they can be passed to the relevant developer (they may not always be present or monitoring the forum).
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@Rich-OP That link to the Edge Finder guide is pretty damming in my opinion. It includes the forum from the testers and it shows that a load of them were stake restricted immediately when using the tool across multiple bookmakers. No warning of this across the marketing or guide you sent me. Please can you pass this to developers to add the ARB remover as I have suggested. In all your training across outplayed you advise against ARBing for account health but have basically built a tool which does this proactively - I just can't see the sense in it.
